MLPFIM S6E24-6 Liveblog Chat Thingy!

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ETA: Chatlog below the cut!

S6E24

[14:03] <Sylocat> Almost forgot her saddlebags
01[14:03] <Froborr> My guess, it’s going to send her straight back.
[14:03] <Arrlaari> Oh hey I was pouring a glass
[14:04] <Sylocat> Vacation cancelled
[14:04] <Sylocat> Ah… pause at end of credits for Arrlaari?
01[14:04] <Froborr> np
[14:04] <mere_oblivion> indeedy
[14:04] <Sylocat> Paused
[14:04] <Sylocat> BTW, Froborr, are you feeling any better?
01[14:05] <Froborr> Yes, thank you.
[14:05] <Arrlaari> also it’s dropping frames, so I’d better restart
[14:07] <Sylocat> Welcome back.
[14:07] <Arrlaari> Sorry for the delay,paused at end of credits
[14:07] <Sylocat> Okay…
[14:07] <Sylocat> Click
[14:08] <Sylocat> Huh, a lot of sizes and shapes of those cadets
[14:09] <Sylocat> Aww, they have a fangirl
[14:09] <Whammy_> I believe that’s the Make a Wish foundation character right there
[14:09] <Sylocat> Oh? They did it again?
[14:09] <Whammy_> Yeah
[14:09] <Whammy_> Or it was something like that
[14:09] <Sylocat> Awesome!
[14:09] <Sylocat> Oh yeah, I remember reading about that too. I’d forgotten
01[14:10] <Froborr> I’m a little behind, can we resynch at the ad break?
[14:10] <Sylocat> Sure
01[14:11] <Froborr> Haha, “classroom portion,” Twi’s reaction
[14:11] <Arrlaari> gah audio ad
[14:11] <Arrlaari> where are you
[14:11] <Sylocat> What’s the time stamp of the ad break? I didn’t get one
[14:11] <Arrlaari> It wasn’t an interruption
01[14:12] <Froborr> I don’t have one either, I meant the ad break in the show.
[14:12] <Sylocat> Ah, okay
[14:12] <Arrlaari> It started playing simultaneously with the ep and I had to pause manually
[14:12] <Sylocat> And gee, I wonder if this guy will learn a lesson
[14:12] <Sylocat> Aahhah, Rainbow Dash was the one who fell asleep, because of course
[14:14] <Sylocat> Of course Twilight paid attention, she was teaching the class
[14:14] <Whammy_> Paused 8:19
01[14:15] <Froborr> Wow, I’m far behind.
[14:15] <Arrlaari> paused 8:18
[14:15] <Sylocat> Were we supposed to be able to tell what Twilight and Rainbow Dash were saying? It got drowned out because they were talking at once
[14:15] <Whammy_> Twilight wants to tell them, RD doesn’t want to.
[14:16] <mere_oblivion> Ah. You must have that Glenn Gould power to hear what two or more people are saying at the same time
01[14:16] <Froborr> Okay, paused at 8:19, sorry about that.
[14:16] <Arrlaari> “telling them” was clear and I did catch Rainbow say “without”
[14:16] <Whammy_> And watched the episode already
[14:16] <mere_oblivion> Oh, so that’s your game!
[14:16] <Sylocat> Okay then…
[14:16] <Whammy_> That helps knowing whats going on XD
[14:16] <Sylocat> Click
[14:17] <Whammy_> Shoot, I already have a reaction to the finale up on my analysis website for like a month now
[14:17] <mere_oblivion> I’ll have to avoid your site till after the finale!
[14:17] <Whammy_> We’re watching it today so XD
[14:17] <Sylocat> Jeez, this guy needs a kick
[14:18] <Whammy_> Also, new town name yay
01[14:18] <Froborr> Okay, the sneeze gag was pretty funny.
[14:18] <Whammy_> Stratusburg
01[14:18] <Froborr> But yeah, Sky is a jackass, I’m not sure why RD cares so much about protecting his feelings on this.
[14:18] <Sylocat> Rainbow Dash has been spending too much time at this place
[14:18] <Arrlaari> augh fios
[14:18] <Whammy_> It’s more she places a lot of emphasis on confidence.
[14:18] <Arrlaari> shut up
[14:18] <Arrlaari> doesn’t even pause the video when it’s gabbing
[14:19] <mere_oblivion> Is it one of those “And she (Vapor Trail) likes him (Sky) because . . . ?”
[14:19] <Sylocat> Whoa.
01[14:20] <Froborr> I’ll admit, I understand preferring to be the person behind the scenes than the face.
01[14:20] <Froborr> *rather than
[14:20] <Sylocat> I was expecting him to have manipulated her into it somehow, but he doesn’t even know
[14:21] <mere_oblivion> So instead of “Behind every great man” we have “Beneath every great stallion”
[14:22] <Sylocat> Ahahah… Rainbow Dash is Alex Louis Armstrong now
01[14:22] <Froborr> Okay, that was an awesome stop by whatsername.
01[14:22] <Froborr> I can’t tell if the flip at the end was supposed to be a stumble or a trick, but it was awesome.
[14:23] <Whammy_> Stumble turned into a trick? -shrug-
[14:23] <Sylocat> Given all Vapor Trail’s hidden talent, I’m guessing the latter
[14:23] <Whammy_> Twilight with “told you so face”
[14:25] <Sylocat> “I have a plan so cunning, you could put a tail on it and call it a weasel”
[14:26] <Sylocat> Ahhhh, I think I know how this is going to turn out
[14:26] <Sylocat> Clever foreshadowing with the contrasts between Rainbow Dash’s and Twilight’s original plans to deal with the problem
01[14:27] <Froborr> Haha, “please pick the second option”
[14:28] <Sylocat> I somehow never noticed until now that each Pegasus leaves a different-patterned flight trail
01[14:28] <Froborr> Yeah, it’s cutie mark-based.
01[14:28] <Froborr> I think they started doing it with whatsitcalled, the first episode at Wonderbolts flight camp.
[14:29] <Sylocat> Ahahah, the fickle fan
01[14:30] <Froborr> That was a fun one!
[14:30] <Sylocat> Indeed. I think it was one of the ones aimed just as much at parents as at kids
01[14:33] <Froborr> So yeah, that was a good one, and on one of my favorite themes, what it actually means to help someone.
[14:34] <Sylocat> Yeah, a whole lot of Madoka Magica vibes there
[14:34] <Whammy_> In that last episode?
[14:34] <Sylocat> Yeah, in terms of the whole helping thing
[14:35] <Sylocat> That flashback where we learn Vapor Trail’s motives was heartbreaking
[14:35] <Sylocat> (brb, one moment)
[14:36] <Arrlaari> Like I can see the connection to the Froborr’s essays on helping, which were written with respect to MM, but I don’t see a direct connection
01[14:38] <Froborr> Anyway, yeah, I don’t really feel an MM vibe per se, just that one theme.
01[14:39] <Froborr> Which is in a lot of stuff besides MM!
[14:39] <Whammy_> Yeah.
01[14:39] <Froborr> (For example, I think MM picked it up from Utena.)
[14:39] <Whammy_> No cute mascot trying to kill everyone
[14:39] <Sylocat> True enough. Though that flashback… well, anyway
[14:39] <Sylocat> Everyone ready?

S6E25

[14:40] <Whammy_> ouo
[14:41] <Sylocat> Is it…
[14:41] <Sylocat> Yep, it’s her
[14:41] <Whammy_> Like the uniform
[14:41] <Sylocat> Ah, from Sunburst?
[14:42] <Whammy_> Also, if Celestia is the main one using dragons…does that mean Twilight gets mail from no one but Celestia?
[14:42] <Whammy_> Cause I would think average pony not sending letters to Twilight through Spike.
[14:42] <Arrlaari> Actually how do people send to Spike?
01[14:42] <Froborr> Actually… how DOES Celestia send the letters?
[14:42] <Whammy_> Magic
01[14:42] <Froborr> Fair enough.
[14:42] <Sylocat> This is gonna be awkward…
[14:43] <Sylocat> Ouch
[14:43] <Sylocat> Or wait… is this a dream?
01[14:43] <Froborr> Dream sequence, calling it.
[14:43] <Sylocat> Luna?
[14:43] <Sylocat> Called it, literally a split-second ahead of time
01[14:44] <Froborr> Ooh, Luna-Starlight parallels.
01[14:44] <Froborr> I like it.
01[14:45] <Froborr> …I still feel like Starlight basically exists because the writers noticed how well Sunset Shimmer was working out in Equestria Girls and regretted not being able to have her in the show.
[14:45] <Whammy_> That social pressure Pinkie
01[14:45] <Froborr> This is not a bad thing.
[14:45] <Whammy_> OuO
[14:45] <Sylocat> TRIXIE!
01[14:45] <Froborr> Ahahahaha Trixie!
[14:45] <Arrlaari> I had to pause for audio ad
[14:45] <Whammy_> Now you see why I loved the finale so much
[14:46] <Whammy_> Never enough Trixie
[14:46] <Sylocat> Wait, hold up…
[14:46] <Arrlaari> Audio ad over, I unpaused
[14:46] <Sylocat> Pause at 5:28, I have to reboot
01[14:46] <Froborr> NP
[14:46] <Arrlaari> I thought the last episode with Trixie in it taught her not to be quite as passive aggressive about this
[14:47] <Sylocat> Okay… sorry about that…
[14:47] <Sylocat> Click
[14:47] <Whammy_> It wouldn’t be Trixie without passive aggressiveness towards Twilight
[14:47] <Whammy_> But don’t worry, Trixie is probably one of the best parts of this finale
[14:47] <Whammy_> Especially these next few scenes ouo
01[14:48] <Froborr> Whammy.
[14:48] <Sylocat> Trixie is an even better foil for Starlight than for Twilight, which is probably why they’re friends
01[14:49] <Froborr> Yeah, the most competitive pony, incapable of seeing anything as being anything OTHER than a contest to see who’s best, and Ms Totalitarian Conformity.
[14:49] <Sylocat> Is it a coincidence that the festival is named after the character that Starlight is based on?
[14:50] <Sylocat> Uh oh
01[14:50] <Froborr> I don’t think it’s a coincidence, no.
[14:50] <Sylocat> I’m getting some “Do Princesses Dream of Magic Sheep” vibes from this episode too
[14:51] <Whammy_> “Almost” good advice key
[14:51] <Sylocat> (and since that’s my favorite episode of the entire show, that’s a really good thing)
[14:51] <Whammy_> Probably not great to act like never happened.
01[14:51] <Froborr> Why did Pinkie not recognize Sunlight?
01[14:51] <Froborr> *Starlight
[14:51] <Sylocat> Uh oh
[14:51] <Sylocat> Something’s gone very wrong
01[14:52] <Froborr> …RD didn’t call them by name either.
[14:52] <Sylocat> Ah… I’m thinking a certain one-off episode from just a few weeks ago might have been foreshadowing for the finale?
01[14:53] <Froborr> …yeah, I think you might be right.
[14:53] <Sylocat> What’s-his-name’s ambassadorial efforts presumably didn’t go well
[14:54] <Whammy_> Thorax?
[14:54] <Sylocat> Thorax, that was the name
[14:54] <Whammy_> Still not the best of names
01[14:54] <Froborr> I just noticed the halloween-themed network watermark.
01[14:55] <Froborr> Okay, is this going to be Starlight, Trixie, and Luna vs. Changelings?
01[14:55] <Froborr> Because that’d be AWESOME!
[14:56] <Whammy_> Sorry, no Luna
[14:56] <Arrlaari> no spoils
01[14:56] <Froborr> Aw.
[14:56] <Arrlaari> losing a few seconds to another audio ad
[14:56] <Sylocat> Wait a minute… Princess Luna giving a mission to an alternate adventuring party that includes Trixie? THIS IS THE LUNAVERSE!
01[14:56] <Froborr> Hahaha, it is!
[14:56] <Whammy_> The scene there just kind of said no Luna so not a spoiler XD
[14:56] <Arrlaari> unpaused
[14:56] <Whammy_> Or am I few seconds ahead of everyone?
01[14:56] <Froborr> No, Arr is a few seconds behind I think.
[14:57] <Sylocat> Trixie gets the best lines
01[14:57] <Froborr> Everyone pause and sync at 15:00?
[14:57] <Arrlaari> I’m already at 16:12
[14:57] <Arrlaari> Paused there
[14:57] <Arrlaari> Must have missed the call to pause earlier
01[14:57] <Froborr> Oh. Wow, I’m behind too I guess.
[14:57] <Sylocat> I was at 15:38 or somewhere like that
01[14:58] <Froborr> I’ll pause at 16:12.
[14:58] <Whammy_> Beh, was ahead and then went back and now gotta catch up XD
[14:58] <Sylocat> I will too, when I get there
[14:58] <Whammy_> -is not gonna skip over Trixie scenes XD
01[14:59] <Froborr> Paused at 16:12.
[14:59] <Whammy_> And there
01[14:59] <Froborr> Also, lol, the “what did you tell me never to tell scene.”
01[14:59] <Froborr> Trixie is firing on all cylinders this ep, it’s greaet.
01[14:59] <Froborr> *great
[14:59] <Whammy_> And powerful
[14:59] <Sylocat> Paused at 16:12 as well…
[14:59] <Sylocat> Get ready…
[14:59] <Sylocat> Click
01[15:00] <Froborr> greaet and powearfil tricae
01[15:00] <Froborr> You’re not going to believe this, but crash.
[15:00] <Sylocat> The Changeling drones all have hilarious voices?
01[15:00] <Froborr> I need to refresh.
01[15:01] <Froborr> Resync at 16:42?
[15:01] <Sylocat> Okay, pausing there
01[15:01] <Froborr> *shakes fist at dailymotion*
[15:01] <Whammy_> So much syncing issues
[15:01] <Sylocat> It is an awful site
01[15:02] <Froborr> Are we all at 16:42?
[15:02] <Sylocat> Yep
[15:02] <Sylocat> Ready?
01[15:02] <Froborr> Arr?
[15:02] <Arrlaari> ready
[15:02] <Sylocat> Click
01[15:03] <Froborr> Haha, is that the Mane Six voice actresses doing wacky insect voices?
[15:03] <Sylocat> Oh, I caught the reference
01[15:04] <Froborr> Harry Potter?
[15:04] <Sylocat> They made that reference in the very first comics issue, too
[15:04] <Sylocat> No, the Invasion of the Body Snatchers, the scream and point
01[15:04] <Froborr> That, yeah, I was talking about the invisibility cloak bit.
[15:04] <Sylocat> Oh, good point
01[15:04] <Froborr> Oh hey, it’s Odinsword.
[15:05] <Arrlaari> Odinsword?
01[15:05] <Froborr> Freystaff.
01[15:05] <Froborr> Whatever his name is.
[15:05] <Whammy_> Thorax
01[15:05] <Froborr> Right, Baldurspear.
[15:05] <Sylocat> OHHHHH
[15:05] <Sylocat> I only now got those puns
01[15:06] <Froborr> Oh my god this teamup.
[15:06] <mere_oblivion> Been wondering where this guy was
[15:06] <Sylocat> Oh wow. Is this going to be a reformed-villains Mane Six?
01[15:06] <Froborr> Do we HAVE two more reformed villains?
[15:07] <Whammy_> Well, could have thrown in Gilda or something
[15:07] <Whammy_> But nope, just these four
01[15:07] <Froborr> Okay, that is RIGHT out of the comics.
[15:07] <Whammy_> Also, Discord ready to murder something
[15:07] <Sylocat> How are they going to nerf Discord? He’s way too OP for there to be tension
01[15:08] <Froborr> Seriously, only other reformed villains I can think of are Luna and Sunset.
[15:08] <Sylocat> Wait, Trixie and Chrysalis share a VA?
[15:08] <Whammy_> Gilda
[15:08] <Whammy_> Maaaaybe Flim and Flam.
01[15:08] <Froborr> I mean, clearly they HAVE nerfed Discord somehow, since he couldn’t take them straight to Fluttershy.
01[15:08] <Froborr> Wait, when was Gilda reformed?
[15:08] <Whammy_> When they went to Griffonstone.
[15:08] <Arrlaari> They did just job all the other Princesses to Chrysalis
[15:09] <Arrlaari> Suggesting that she’s strong enough to contend with Discord
01[15:09] <Froborr> Oh, I vaguely remember that being an episode, but I thoguht it was a different griffon?
[15:09] <Whammy_> No, they went to Griffonstone, RD reconciled with Gilda.
01[15:09] <Froborr> Or am I confusing it with the CMC ep?
[15:09] <Whammy_> Yeah, that must be it.
[15:09] <Whammy_> Cause Gabby mentioned delivering a letter from Gilda to to RD
01[15:09] <Froborr> But yeah, so far this is really good!
[15:10] <Arrlaari> same hat
[15:10] <Whammy_> But yeah, if you had to round it out, Gilda for a RD replacement….
[15:10] <Whammy_> Flim and Flam really only replacement for AJ really thematically.
[15:11] <Whammy_> -just tries to imagine Flim and Flam conning a bunch of Changelings
01[15:11] <Froborr> …okay, so it’d be seven total?
[15:11] <Whammy_> -shrug-
01[15:11] <Froborr> I guess Flim and Flam basically count as one pony.
01[15:11] <Froborr> Or one is captured and that motivates the other to join?
[15:12] <Arrlaari> So let’s see if we agree on how they line up
[15:12] <Whammy_> “Dammit Flim, I told you to not try and sell that cider to the Changelings”
[15:12] <Arrlaari> Flim and Flam are too good at cons to fall for Changling impersonators
[15:12] <Whammy_> -thinks- Guess could use Lightning Dust as another foil for RD
01[15:12] <Froborr> Starlight->Twilight, Trixie->Rarity, Thorax->Fluttershy, Discord->Pinkie, Gilda->RD, Flim/Flam->AJ.
01[15:13] <Froborr> Or you could do Lightning Dus instead of Gilda, yeah.
[15:13] <Whammy_> But like the idea of throwing Gilda in.
[15:13] <Arrlaari> Lightning Dust?
[15:13] <Whammy_> Diversity of species
[15:13] <Arrlaari> Who was that?
[15:13] <Whammy_> That reckless flyer from when RD was at the Wonderbolt Academy
[15:13] <Sylocat> Lightning Dust was the antagonist from Wonderbolt Academy way back in S3
01[15:13] <Froborr> Gilda I think is better, because she was actually malicious (ish), where LD was just reckless.
[15:14] <Whammy_> Although notably Thorax never technically an antagonist.
[15:14] <Arrlaari> Oh, and we should have the Queen Dragon to substitute for Spike
[15:14] <Arrlaari> Ember?
[15:14] <Whammy_> Believe that was it.
[15:14] <Sylocat> She was also never really a villain, but good idea
[15:14] <Whammy_> Of course she’d probably just invade the Changeligns with a bunch of dragons
[15:15] <Whammy_> So in that sense not a good Spike substitute
01[15:15] <Froborr> Yeah, she’d be the cavalry showing up at the end to save the day.
[15:15] <Whammy_> So, I don’t know, throw in Twist for Spike? XD
[15:15] <Sylocat> Of course, now we know that Changelings can imitate Dragons too
[15:15] <Whammy_> Poor filly never seen in ages.
[15:16] <Sylocat> So there could be sabotage there
01[15:16] <Froborr> Ooh, THAT’S the reformed villain this team needs!
[15:16] <Arrlaari> Paused at start of video
01[15:16] <Froborr> Diamond Tiara!
[15:16] <Whammy_> lol
[15:16] <Sylocat> So, shall we, then?
01[15:16] <Froborr> Yeah, okay.
[15:16] <mere_oblivion> Ay
[15:16] <Sylocat> Okay then…
[15:17] <Sylocat> (seriously, though, I’m surprised they haven’t used Diamond Tiara more since her redemption)

S6E26

01[15:17] <Froborr> This would’ve been a good episode to finally put Starlight in the OP.
[15:18] <Arrlaari> I think she was in the photo at the end
[15:18] <Whammy_> Go away Franklin and Friends
01[15:18] <Froborr> I was looking for her, didn’t see her, but might have missed her.
[15:18] <Arrlaari> “A what?”
[15:18] <Sylocat> “Do I look like a guy with a plan?”
01[15:19] <Froborr> Ah, antimagic field.
[15:19] <Arrlaari> ad
[15:19] <Arrlaari> paused after ad, 2:30
[15:20] <Arrlaari> (it was a political ad for the local city council and I’ve already sent my mail-in ballot)
01[15:20] <Froborr> Paused at 2:30.
[15:20] <Sylocat> Okay… synced up again… and…
[15:20] <Whammy_> Beh, no early voting for me
[15:20] <Sylocat> Click
[15:21] <Whammy_> Discord, has to walk? The tragedy
01[15:21] <Froborr> Oh my god, Trixie’s complete lack of patience for Discord is giving me LIFE.
[15:21] <Sylocat> Trixie is awesome!
[15:21] <Whammy_> No one has time for Discord’s shit
[15:22] <Sylocat> She was the original fandom darling, too
[15:22] <Sylocat> Whoa
[15:22] <Sylocat> Trippy visuals
01[15:22] <Froborr> I was waiting to see Discord’s reaction to “total chaos.”
[15:22] <Whammy_> Discord is not impressed with Changeling chaos
01[15:22] <Froborr> I was not disappointed.
[15:22] <Whammy_> There’s not even cotton candy clouds and popcorn corn stalks
[15:23] <Sylocat> Oh god, they’re going to have a “It’s me.” “Prove it.” “You’re a dick.” “…Okay.” moment later on, aren’t they
01[15:24] <Froborr> Ah, there’s the solution to the “Changeling biology forces them to be evil” problem.
[15:25] <Sylocat> So, it only forces them to be evil because they think it forces them to be evil
01[15:25] <Froborr> TRIXIE
[15:25] <Sylocat> Ohh, she’s using stage magic to bamboozle actual magic!
[15:26] <Whammy_> Thorax fakes being Trixie, uses her smoke bombs as distraction
[15:26] <Sylocat> Ah, so Discord’s going to clear the area just by being really really annoying
[15:27] <Sylocat> OHHHHH
[15:27] <Whammy_> Nothing more distracting than bad stand up
[15:27] <mere_oblivion> “I’ll be here all week, enjoy the veal parmesan”
[15:27] <Sylocat> Oh jeez, he’s falling for THAT?
01[15:27] <Froborr> That is so not the real Fluttershy.
[15:28] <Sylocat> …It’s a really good act though
[15:28] <Whammy_> welp
[15:28] <Whammy_> That’s horrifying
[15:28] <Sylocat> And Chrysalis is just pointlessly cruel enough to stash the real one there just to torture him, too
[15:29] <Sylocat> Reverse psychology
[15:30] <Sylocat> He knows they know he’s not Discord, so he’s leading them down the correct tunnel
[15:30] <Whammy_> Welp
[15:30] <Sylocat> Yikes
[15:30] <Whammy_> Trixie dead
[15:30] <Whammy_> Twas a good run
[15:30] <Whammy_> Those things, still gross
01[15:31] <Froborr> Oh, that is CREEPY.
[15:31] <Whammy_> That also gross
[15:31] <Sylocat> Thorax is being one of the guards, I assume
01[15:31] <Froborr> Thorax is Crysalis, is my guess.
01[15:32] <Froborr> Oh, no, wrong. Clever!
[15:32] <Whammy_> “I hit it with a rock”
[15:33] <Sylocat> Huh. I did not see these parallels coming
[15:34] <Sylocat> He’s giving her an OD?
[15:34] <Sylocat> ….what is THAT?
01[15:35] <Froborr> Thorax is evolving!
01[15:35] <Froborr> It became… Abdomen!
[15:35] <Sylocat> …
[15:35] <Sylocat> I do like the updated designs
[15:35] <Sylocat> Still unearthly and alien, but now fabulous as well
[15:35] <Whammy_> I think you’re the first I’ve seen say that ^_^””
01[15:36] <Froborr> Nah, I like the design a lot, they’re clearly playing with the fairy thing.
[15:37] <Sylocat> Oh, this is such a perfect full-circle!
[15:37] <Whammy_> But you all can probably guess other common reactions to the Changeling thing ^_^”””
01[15:38] <Froborr> That was great!
[15:38] <Sylocat> Wow.
[15:38] <Sylocat> That was amazing
[15:39] <mere_oblivion> Yowza
[15:39] <Sylocat> That brought back so many fanfic memories too
[15:39] <Sylocat> I might even start MPoE again
[15:40] <Sylocat> But yeah, it was a great comparing and contrasting between the characters, too
01[15:40] <Froborr> I mean, “Starlight gathers team of reformed villains to deal with Chrysalis’ revenge” is clearly going to be a standard fanfic plot now.
[15:40] <Whammy_> And of course on pure fanboy level I loved Trixie, especially her support towards Starlight and the Discord interactions
[15:41] <Whammy_> And since no more spoiler issues: https://analysisismagic.wordpress.com/2016/10/23/episode-reaction-to-where-back-again-mlp-season-6-finale/
[15:41] <mere_oblivion> Thanks, whammy!
[15:41] <Whammy_> ^^^ the reaction post I did a while back when the finale was leaked in the UK
[15:41] <Sylocat> Yep. And in the fanfics she’s going to rope in EVERY reformed villain, from Diamond Tiara to Gilda to Flim and Flam
01[15:43] <Froborr> Exactly, Sylo.
01[15:43] <Froborr> But yeah, I actually really like the Changeling redesign.
[15:44] <mere_oblivion> I’m off for a post-prandial relapse into the arms of Morpheus, everybody. See you all next “season” (week?)!
[15:44] <Whammy_> I’m agnostic on the design.
01[15:44] <Froborr> Next time!
[15:44] <Whammy_> I don’t really love it but don’t really hate it either.
[15:44] <Whammy_> Part of me somewhat a little concerned into playing with “good = beautiful” a bit
[15:44] <Arrlaari> The thing that’s most striking to me is that unreconstructed changelings have holes in their extremities
[15:45] <Arrlaari> The reformed changelings don’t
01[15:45] <Froborr> I like how it maintains the Changelings as being Equestria’s equivalent to fairies, deeply weird and kind of ethereal creatures that combine insect and mammal elements, just swaps them from the Unseelie Court to the Seelie.
01[15:45] <Froborr> And yes, I like the visual of filling in the holes.
01[15:46] <Froborr> I’m not too worried about the “good=beautiful” thing because they’re still creepy af.
[15:46] <Whammy_> -shrug- I mean in the big scheme of things it’s a minor point.
01[15:47] <Froborr> My absolute favorite detail is that from the sides, you can see they have deer-like ears and a horn, but from the front it looks like insect mouthparts.
[15:47] <Whammy_> That Changelings now somewhat have an option of possibilities (reform and go with Thorax, stay vengeful go with Chrysalis) helps solve the deterministic aspects that popped up in Thorax’s original episode.
01[15:47] <Froborr> But sure, it’s not a huge deal. I’m just really happy with and impressed by it.
01[15:47] <Froborr> Whammy: Exactly! And that’s really important.
[15:48] <Whammy_> So my kind of minor critique on the appearance change sort of comes from that in “Well, did they really need to physically transform to do that?” since tying in good/evil to physical appearance still has a slight tinge of that determinism to me.
01[15:49] <Froborr> Hmm. Yeah, I can see where you’re coming from on that.
[15:49] <Arrlaari> On the other hand, Changelings
01[15:49] <Froborr> It’d be cool to get a followup episode where some of the reformed Changelings choose to still look like they used to.
[15:49] <Arrlaari> Like, they can alter their appearance at will
[15:49] <Whammy_> But, bigger point as I discussed in the analysis is now there really isn’t any particular race in Equestria that can be said to be an “evil” race.
[15:50] <Whammy_> Something that was always sort of clashing with the overall themes of the show.
[15:50] <Arrlaari> Well there’s those yetis
[15:50] <Whammy_> S7: Yeti reform
[15:50] <Arrlaari> The ones that used to cover Equestria in snow until they found being around friendship so unpleasant they all hid in the mountains
[15:51] <Whammy_> Oh, those were Windigoes, not Yeti
[15:51] <Arrlaari> Windigoes, ok
[15:51] <Whammy_> Which…I tend to count them as more towards magical/natural disaster than a species
[15:51] <Whammy_> But there are the pony eating Yeti’s Pinkie mentions so -shrug-
01[15:51] <Froborr> Do they even exist?
[15:51] <Arrlaari> I’m hoping the next time Windigoes comes up a Griffon is in earshot and is like “What those guys? They aren’t so bad
01[15:51] <Froborr> I mean, Windigoes don’t show up outside of that one play, do they?
[15:51] <Whammy_> That play and the Hearth’s Warming Eve carol.
[15:52] <Whammy_> So they do seem to be more myth/folklore.
[15:52] <Arrlaari> Like, the stories hold they fled to the mountains, and Griffons live in the mountains
[15:52] <Whammy_> Buuuut, considering the series, I tend to be more willing to take their myths and stuff at a bit more face value.
[15:52] <Whammy_> I mean, starting two parter was literally “old mare’s tale was actual history of the relationship between the princesses”
[15:53] <Whammy_> So I tend to lean more towards some of these stories being at least somewhat factual.
[15:53] <@Sylocat> It’s fun to speculate though
[15:54] <Arrlaari> Windigoes are not that much weirder than everyday Equestria stuff
01[15:55] <Froborr> True.
[15:58] <Arrlaari> So we’re caught up with ponies and next week we return to Urobuchi’s cyberpunk murder procedural
[15:58] <@Sylocat> Indeed
01[15:58] <Froborr> Actually, I wanted to ask about that.
[15:58] <@Sylocat> Should we start Psycho-Pass over?
01[15:58] <Froborr> That’s one of my questions.
[15:58] <Whammy_> -never watched it-
01[15:59] <Froborr> The other one was whether we want to watch the most recent Equestria Girls movie.
[15:59] <Whammy_> -not sure will be watching-
[15:59] <Whammy_> Sure, why not….I say having already seen it XD
[15:59] <@Sylocat> Good question, there
01[16:02] <Froborr> So far the votes I’m hearing are yes, silence, and dunno.
[16:03] <@Sylocat> Haha… I’m up for it
[16:03] <Arrlaari> I can remember where we were well enough
[16:03] <Arrlaari> But I do recall the difficulties the rest of you have had with memory in the past
[16:03] <@Sylocat> Ouch
01[16:04] <Froborr> Okay, wait, we’ve got two separate questions going.
[16:04] <Arrlaari> And I wouldn’t be adverse to at least repeating the episode we saw most recently, since it was the first of at least 2 parts
01[16:04] <Froborr> 1) Do we resume Psycho-Pass or start over?
[16:04] <Arrlaari> I dunno about the movie either
01[16:04] <Froborr> 2) Do we go to Psycho-Pass next or watch EQG4 first?
[16:05] <@Sylocat> My votes are 1) yes, and 2) either works for me
01[16:05] <Froborr> And yeah, I remember the premise of the show and vaguely what some of the characters look like, but not their names, or relationships, or the plot so far.
[16:05] <Whammy_> Just let me know whenever you guys watch EQG4
[16:05] <Whammy_> -isn’t planning on watching Psycho Pass at the moment
[16:05] <Whammy_> -has a bunch of other anime I’m watching this season-
01[16:06] <Froborr> Okay, so let’s say we watch EQG next weekend, and table the decision of where to start with Psycho-Pass until then?
[16:07] <@Sylocat> Okay then
[16:10] <@Sylocat> I should probably be off now as well… see y’all next weekend, this was a really fun finale
01[16:11] <Froborr> See you!
[16:11] <Whammy_> Alrighty then.
[16:11] <Whammy_> And yes, super fun finale.
[16:13] <Arrlaari> I may have inadvertently disconnected myself
[16:13] <Arrlaari> Ah, and I got the connection back
01[16:14] <Froborr> Oh, there wasn’t any indicator you’d left.
[16:14] <Whammy_> So, any final thoughts on finale?
[16:14] <Arrlaari> One of the ethernet cables here doesn’t have the plastic latch clip, so it can slide out
01[16:14] <Froborr> I think we covered everything I wanted to say.
01[16:15] <Froborr> I read your reaction just now Whammy, good stuff!
[16:15] <Whammy_> Great.
[16:15] <Whammy_> Now finish SU so you can read my Peridot analysis Dx
01[16:15] <Froborr> Hahah. I’m not far!
[16:16] <Whammy_> But yeah ,this finale first time in ages I’ve done something analysis wise for MLP
[16:17] <Whammy_> Mostly cause was seeing some negative reaction to the Changelings and, well, nothing works better for wanting to write than a controversy.
01[16:17] <Froborr> Very true.

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