Sailor Moon Crystal Episode 26 and MLPFIM S5E13 Liveblog Chat Thingy!

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ETA: Chatlog below the cut!

SMC

01[13:00] <Froborr> Oh yeah, I meant to look up if Death Phanton is the same VA as the Anti-Spiral King.
[13:01] <@Sylocat> I know I’ve heard that VA somewhere before, but I wonder if it’s just the voice modulation or something
[13:02] <@Sylocat> Oh, is it a one-on-one showdown?
[13:03] <Arrlaari> ad starting
[13:03] <@Sylocat> Paused
01[13:03] <Froborr> I looked it up, and I don’t recognize the VA (Hiroshi Iwasaki) from anything.
[13:03] <@Sylocat> I wonder if he’s doing an impression of someone else
[13:04] <Arrlaari> ad over
[13:04] <Arrlaari> Frob?
01[13:04] <Froborr> Yeah.
01[13:04] <Froborr> Sorry, I forgot to turn off adblock, so.
[13:04] <Arrlaari> Ah
01[13:04] <Froborr> Click?
[13:05] <@Sylocat> …yes
[13:05] <Arrlaari> I unpaused when Frob said “yeah”
01[13:05] <Froborr> Ah, Mamoru has developed Solar Hands, he is now a master baker.
[13:05] <Arrlaari> I thought that meant your ad was over
01[13:05] <Froborr> Oh. Yeah.
[13:05] <Arrlaari> it’s just a few seconds, we’ll make it up on next ad
[13:06] <Arrlaari> Does that count as kissing him while he’s asleep?
[13:06] <@Sylocat> Not really, since he’s standing there watching her do it
[13:06] <Arrlaari> His ghost was outside the building
[13:06] <@Sylocat> But things get into gray areas when astral projection is involved
[13:06] <@Sylocat> Is Pluto really dead?
01[13:07] <Froborr> I mean, Pluto’s a time traveler, right? Even if she’s dead she can still show up later.
[13:07] <@Sylocat> True
[13:08] <@Sylocat> ANOTHER layer of illusion?
[13:08] <Arrlaari> There’s Venus asking the important question
[13:09] <Arrlaari> The big bad is often a powerful illusionist
[13:09] <Arrlaari> because Bhuddism is part of the background of the culture
01[13:10] <Froborr> Having a second, smaller Sailor Moon is going to be pretty handy I expect.
[13:10] <@Sylocat> Yes… especially now that she’s actually trying to be helpful
[13:10] <Arrlaari> ad
01[13:10] <Froborr> Wait, so Tux gets to go help but not the Sailor Scouts?
[13:10] <Arrlaari> It happened on the ad break
01[13:11] <Froborr> But they’re actually useful! He can’t even teleport!
[13:11] <Arrlaari> unpause when my ad is over, or wait for a “click” message?
01[13:11] <Froborr> Yeah, just let us know when it’s over and we’ll unpause.
[13:11] <Arrlaari> ad over
[13:12] <@Sylocat> Click
[13:12] <@Sylocat> SPACE
[13:13] <@Sylocat> This is what brings on her crisis of faith?
[13:13] <@Sylocat> Wait, what? When was that established?
[13:14] <@Sylocat> Ahahahah
01[13:14] <Froborr> Okay, Chibi Moon doing her version of the Name of the Moon speech is adorable.
[13:15] <@Sylocat> Debris!
[13:15] <@Sylocat> Whoa
[13:16] <Arrlaari> Straight up Death Starred that jerk
[13:16] <@Sylocat> Did they just get disintegrated in the explosion?
01[13:16] <Froborr> That was implied…
[13:17] <@Sylocat> “Guardian of Protection?” That seems redundant
01[13:17] <Froborr> I’m sure it sounded better in Japanese.
01[13:18] <Froborr> Mystery, huh?
[13:18] <Arrlaari> The Japnese word is “Senshi” which in other contextx has been translated as “Fighter” (FF1) and “Warrior” (FFXIV)
[13:18] <Arrlaari> Mars’ title could be translated as “The Fighter of Fighting”
[13:18] <@Sylocat> Or “warrior of war”
[13:19] <@Sylocat> Oh yikes
[13:20] <@Sylocat> This is kinda sweet, and hella dangerous
[13:20] <Arrlaari> “Thanks for being awesome, me” “No, thank YOU, me!”
01[13:20] <Froborr> lol
[13:20] <@Sylocat> WHAT
[13:20] <@Sylocat> Wow
[13:20] <Arrlaari> The future sailor scouts were sleeping too, they haven’t mentioned in a while but it was established
01[13:20] <Froborr> Eh, the guardian of spacetime is dead, nobody can stop us from violating the Blinovich limitation effect now!
[13:21] <@Sylocat> So she’s sticking around?
01[13:21] <Froborr> Wait, so Chibi-Usa is staying in the past?
01[13:21] <Froborr> Oh. No she’s not.
[13:21] <@Sylocat> Oh… or not
[13:22] <@Sylocat> “You don’t annoy me, you idiot”
[13:23] <@Sylocat> So… she’s still got a crush on him?
[13:23] <@Sylocat> At least they’re not making out (knock on wood)
01[13:23] <Froborr> This is basically Electra Complexes: The Series.
[13:25] <Arrlaari> “I wonder if there’ll be another season soon”
01[13:25] <Froborr> lol, yeah, basically.
[13:25] <@Sylocat> And yeah
[13:25] <@Sylocat> Wha… I…
[13:26] <@Sylocat> And here we go again
[13:26] <Arrlaari> ad
01[13:26] <Froborr> I mean, if you’re going to do the “here we go again!” ending, a time travel story probably IS the place to do it.
[13:27] <@Sylocat> ITrue
[13:27] <Arrlaari> So, I’ve mentioned a few times that Demande and Sapphir’s arcs were different
01[13:27] <Froborr> Yeah.
[13:28] <Arrlaari> Remember how, in this version, Sapphir basically blamed Usagi for Wiseman’s influence over Demande? In the old series he didn’t do that and had a redemption equals death arc – Death Phantom basically murdered him as he tried to warn Demande that Wiseman was untrustworthy
01[13:29] <Froborr> Ah.
[13:30] <Arrlaari> He also had a thing with Petz, one of the specter sisters, who as you may recall had in that version a collective redemption arc and survived the season. The big showdown happened in the 20th century, where Wiseman & Dark Lady put one of those big Dark Crystals in the middle of Tokyo. There was a big scene where Saphir visited Petz in her apartment before going to die.
01[13:31] <Froborr> Huh.
[13:33] <@Sylocat> I’d forgotten about the Specter Sisters, though I remember Saphir’s redemption-equals-death arc
[13:34] <Arrlaari> I’m  looking up a term
[13:35] <Arrlaari> found it
[13:35] <Arrlaari> Demande, for his part, didn’t have the “people (poors) don’t have it tough enough” ideology and was 100% about his crush on Neo-Queen Serenity and toxic ideas about romance, so after Saphir died there was a bit where Sailor Moon basically told him “That’s now how love works”
[13:35] <Arrlaari> And Demande was just deciding to try for a redemption arc and probably Petrarch style pining when Death Phantom showed up to kill him dead
01[13:35] <Froborr> *nods*
01[13:36] <Froborr> I do like how dismissive the series was of Demande’s crush.
[13:38] <Arrlaari> This version kind of implies that Pluto was Petrarchin’ on Neo-Endymion so I guess Naoko is sympathetic to Petrarchism, so it makes sense that Demande’s prospective redemption in the tv show was pointing in that direction
01[13:38] <Froborr> Yeah. I mean, we’ve seen already in the first arc that this series has… interesting ideas about how love works.
[13:39] <Arrlaari> Also, I heard about Petrarch from this post on tumblr, which I googled to get his name: http://sharpestrose.tumblr.com/post/118579105228/last-snowfall-brigidkeely-nick-bottom
[13:39] <@Sylocat> That’s putting it mildly
[13:43] <Arrlaari> So I’m really hoping they get another season because the next arc was amazing in the old anime
[13:44] <Arrlaari> Probably the most entertaining villains and certain other characters of interest
[13:44] <@Sylocat> Sorry for the silence on my end, I was spellbound reading tthat link
01[13:44] <Froborr> The next arc is where Ikuhara got involved, isn’t it?
[13:44] <@Sylocat> Next arc is the Holy Grail one, IIRC?
01[13:44] <Froborr> Yeah, same here Arr.
[13:44] <Arrlaari> It’s fine, that’s a really good post
01[13:45] <Froborr> I was already familiar with the contrast between Shakespearian and Petrarchan sonnets, but still–very solid analysis of the play.
[13:46] <Arrlaari> I believe Ikuhara was on the old tv show from the start, but he was promoted to authority for that arc, which was the third season
01[13:46] <Froborr> I still prefer the “black comedy” reading personally, but that’s certainly a strong reading.
01[13:46] <Froborr> *nods*
[13:46] <@Sylocat> (brb)
01[13:47] <Froborr> So next arc is the lesbian incestuous cousins, then?
[13:48] <Arrlaari> Yes

MLP

01[13:57] <Froborr> Wait, what?
[13:57] <Sylocat> The heck?
[13:58] <Sylocat> A dream sequence?
[13:58] <Arrlaari> Lack of context suggests suprising explanation
[13:58] <Sylocat> Yeah, it was a dream
01[13:58] <Froborr> So… Luna fighting some kind of dream monster?
01[13:58] <Froborr> That’s what I’m guessing, anyway.
[13:58] <Sylocat> Wait… she’s surprised her dream ended happily?
[13:59] <Sylocat> That implies some very sinister magical element here
[13:59] <Arrlaari> Probably the thing that she told to “do your worst”
[13:59] <Sylocat> “Do Princesses Dream of Magic Sheep.” I love it
01[13:59] <Froborr> Yeah, A+ title.
[14:00] <Sylocat> Huh… so this is retreading a comics arc?
01[14:00] <Froborr> Only ponies are affected?
01[14:00] <Froborr> And yeah, this is suspiciously similar to the Nightmare Rarity arc…
[14:01] <Sylocat> That was quick
01[14:01] <Froborr> Tantabus?
[14:01] <Sylocat> Is that a mythology reference of some kind?
01[14:01] <Froborr> Not one I’m familiar with…
[14:02] <Sylocat> Ooh, shared dreaming!
[14:03] <Sylocat> At the end of the episode, they’ll all wake up and Spike will be asleep
01[14:03] <Froborr> Yep.
[14:03] <Sylocat> Whoa
[14:03] <Sylocat> We haven’t seen Luna’s dreamwalking from her POV before
[14:03] <Sylocat> Fish dresses!
[14:04] <Sylocat> Ahahahah…. “avant-garde,” “en garde”
[14:04] <Sylocat> I love it
01[14:04] <Froborr> This is going to be about Luna learning to accept help, isn’t it?
[14:04] <Sylocat> My thought as well
[14:05] <Sylocat> Ah, so this is seeing Pinkie’s warp powers from her POV
[14:05] <Sylocat> What the…
01[14:06] <Froborr> That is a FREAKY dream for Fluttershy…
[14:06] <Sylocat> Angel shows his true form
[14:06] <Sylocat> A callback to Bats?
01[14:06] <Froborr> Of COURSE RD’s dream is an action movie.
[14:06] <Sylocat> Ahahah…. Rainbow Dash
[14:07] <Sylocat> Of course this is RD’s nightmare
[14:07] <Sylocat> Where’s Hagrid when you need him?
[14:08] <Sylocat> Uh oh…
01[14:09] <Froborr> So now we get all of Ponyville’s nightmares?
[14:09] <Sylocat> But the Tantabus fled into Fluttershy’s dream after Pinkie Pie’s…
[14:09] <Sylocat> Yeah, this is Inception
[14:10] <Sylocat> Whoa, we’re barely at the halfway point and already Luna’s learned the accept-help moral?
[14:10] <Arrlaari> Well, she is a Princess
[14:10] <Sylocat> Will there be another moral, or are they just clearing the way for the action scene?
[14:10] <Sylocat> True
[14:10] <Sylocat> AHAHAH
[14:10] <Sylocat> Fusion!
01[14:11] <Froborr> lol at the fusion.
[14:11] <Sylocat> Princess Big McIntosh
[14:11] <Sylocat> Princess Luna, your Rarity is showing
01[14:12] <Froborr> Whoa, another Bats! callback!
[14:12] <Sylocat> This is trippy
[14:12] <Sylocat> AHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA
[14:13] <Sylocat> Oh god…
01[14:13] <Froborr> OMG it IS Princess Big McItosh!
[14:13] <Sylocat> This season… this season
[14:13] <Sylocat> Wow
[14:14] <Sylocat> AHAH
[14:14] <Sylocat> The callbacks… the callbacks…
01[14:15] <Froborr> Ohhh, Scootaloo made me sad.
[14:15] <Sylocat> I… I…
[14:16] <Arrlaari> Oh, it’s rooted in her guilt
[14:16] <Sylocat> Oh… it’s Luna’s demon
[14:16] <Sylocat> Oh… wow
01[14:16] <Froborr> Oh wow, wow.
[14:16] <Sylocat> That… they went THERE?
[14:16] <Sylocat> They… they…
[14:16] <Sylocat> …
[14:17] <Sylocat> This just may have become my favorite episode
01[14:17] <Froborr> Holy shit.
[14:18] <Sylocat> Awwwwwwwwwwwwww
[14:18] <Arrlaari> Dreaming about sleeping
01[14:18] <Froborr> Wow, that was really, really good.
01[14:18] <Froborr> I was NOT expecting them to go there.
[14:19] <Sylocat> That was amazing
[14:19] <Sylocat> That was just… wow
01[14:20] <Froborr> It makes a REALLY interesting pair with the preceding episode, too.
[14:20] <Sylocat> Yeah
[14:20] <Arrlaari> I didn’t see  last week’s because there was no stream
[14:20] <Arrlaari> Or, no chat
01[14:21] <Froborr> No, we just watched last week’s.
01[14:21] <Froborr> There was no epiosde this week.
01[14:21] <Froborr> So the two epiosdes I’m talking about are the July 4 episode and this one.
[14:23] <Arrlaari> I just checked to remind myself which it was
[14:23] <Arrlaari> And yeah, it is interesting that an episode about Twilight’s guilt is followed by one about Luna’s guilt
[14:23] <Sylocat> Mind status: blown
01[14:25] <Froborr> Yeah, I’m really not sure what to say. That was Something.
01[14:26] <Froborr> So.
[14:26] <Sylocat> Yeah

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