Sailor Moon Crystal Episode 21 and MLPFIM S5E6 Liveblog Chat Thingy!

How to participate in the liveblog chat:  Option 1: Whenever you watch the episode, comment on this post as you watch with whatever responses you feel like posting! Option 2: Go to http://webchat.freenode.net/. Enter a nickname, then for the Channels field enter ##rabbitcube, and finally fill in the Captcha and hit Connect! We’ll be watching Sailor Moon Crystal and commenting there starting at 2:00 p.m. EST. We will then be watching MLP at 2:30. 

After the chat, I’ll update this post with the log.

ETA: Chatlog after the cut!

01[14:01] <Froborr> When last we left, the villains went completely off-script and skipped to kidnapping Sailor Moon.
[14:01] <Arrlaari> I think I need to restart firefox. Pause at the end of the OP – if you have an ad break there, that’ll be a good spot
01[14:01] <Froborr> OK.
01[14:02] <Froborr> Okay, watching the end-of-op ads.
[14:03] <Arrlaari> End of op ads starting for me.
01[14:03] <Froborr> Okay, now I’m torn. They just showed an ad for the same thing twice in a row, which normally means an oath to never ever buy that thing ever.
01[14:03] <Froborr> But this is a thing I have already tried and like?
[14:03] <Arrlaari> Gold peak tea?
01[14:03] <Froborr> Yeah.
[14:04] <Arrlaari> I got an ad for Oregon tourism after my tea ad.
01[14:04] <Froborr> Ads over.
[14:04] <Arrlaari> And then a rerun of tea ad.
01[14:04] <Froborr> I got tea, tea, Busch Gardens.
[14:04] <Arrlaari> Ads over.
01[14:04] <Froborr> Which is quasi-local, but I’ve never been, so my mental image is Duff Gardens from the Simpsons.
[14:06] <Arrlaari> Welcome to my Creepy Stalker Room
01[14:06] <Froborr> I hate the whole “captured girl gets her outfit changed” thing, because ewww implications that Demande stripped her.
01[14:06] <Froborr> Oh, and that just got even creepier.
01[14:07] <Froborr> Oh gods, he’s one of those “life is too easy now, poor people should suffer more” conservatives to boot.
[14:08] <Arrlaari> So he’s basically mad that this isn’t a sci-fi cautionary tale against “playing god”
01[14:09] <Froborr> I could have a lot of fun analyzing his time-traveling conquest relative to fascists’ constant appeals to an imagined past golden age that never existed.
01[14:10] <Froborr> So, we’ve also got a bit of a twist here on the whole “vampire seeking past lover who looks just like the captive heroine” thing.
01[14:11] <Froborr> Demande’s power-set has quite a few similarities to a vampire, but the “past love” is Usagi’s future self.
01[14:12] <Froborr> Ah, and here’s where Chibi-Usa usurps Usagi’s role as main character.
01[14:12] <Froborr> Wait what
[14:12] <Arrlaari> We were asking about this last episode, in fact
01[14:13] <Froborr> Okay, so…Chibi-Usa is actually a super-powered adult and
01[14:13] <Froborr> Wait, no, exposition moving too fast, can’t discuss the last thing before the new thing comes along
01[14:14] <Froborr> Okay, so Wiseman is obviously Phantom and manipulating Demande and the rest of Black Moon, but we’d kind of already guessed most of that I think.
01[14:14] <Froborr> I’ll wait to discuss the Chibi-Usa thing until ads
01[14:15] <Froborr> And now she blames herself for Demande’s violations of her consent
01[14:15] <Froborr> *sigh*
[14:15] <Arrlaari> Demande’s motive fo sexual assault is he wants to assert power over a woman who looked at him funny.
01[14:15] <Froborr> Yeah. So, pretty accurate, really.
01[14:16] <Froborr> Ah yeah, Usagi’s gonna get the band back together.
[14:16] <Arrlaari> ad.
01[14:16] <Froborr> Yay, back to the two and a half characters I care about!
01[14:16] <Froborr> Ad.
01[14:16] <Froborr> For Gold Peak. Again.
01[14:16] <Froborr> Okay, I no longer like it.
[14:16] <Arrlaari> I actually missed what exactly they revealed about chibi-usa?
01[14:17] <Froborr> Chibi-Usa is apparently 900, but just stopped growing when she was a child.
01[14:17] <Froborr> Also her dad is convinced she has Sailor MOon-esque powers, but they’re not manifesting for some reason.
[14:17] <Arrlaari> Okay, that’s something established last episode, and people asked why she stopped aging as a child rather than as an adult.
[14:17] <Arrlaari> ad over
01[14:17] <Froborr> Likewise
01[14:18] <Froborr> I’m guessing the two are connected–she’s got some kind of psychological thing and her powers are keeping her a child as a result.
01[14:18] <Froborr> (I mean, OBIOUSLY the two are connected, that’s my guess of how.)
01[14:19] <Froborr> Okay, now guessing that the psychological thing is feelings of inadequacy at competing with her mother.
01[14:21] <Froborr> I will admit, it’s not exactly novel, but I enjoy the paralleling of Chibi-Usa’s feelings of competition and inadequacy to Usagi’s earlier in the thread.
01[14:21] <Froborr> Thread?
01[14:21] <Froborr> Plotline.
01[14:21] <Froborr> Whatever.
01[14:22] <Froborr> Okay, so she blames herself for that attack? But htat’s like 890 years or so after she stopped aging? So can’t be the cause, can it?
01[14:25] <Froborr> *facepalm*
01[14:25] <Froborr> Did Chibi-Usa just run off alone into the void between times?
01[14:25] <Froborr> Yes, yes she did.
01[14:26] <Froborr> Welp, that’s her captured. Guess she won’t be the heroine of this plotline after all.
01[14:27] <Froborr> Annd a fourth ad for Gold Peak. I officially hate it now.
01[14:27] <Froborr> Closing video.
01[14:27] <Froborr> You there?
[14:27] <Arrlaari> Yeah
[14:27] <Arrlaari> I got an ad for another show on crunchy
01[14:27] <Froborr> Okay, you were just really quiet through most of the second act.
[14:27] <Arrlaari> And then gold peak again
01[14:27] <Froborr> Anyway.
[14:27] <Arrlaari> Well, I can’t speculate because I have spoilers
[14:29] <Arrlaari> Remember how last episode, Chibi-Usa wandered off alone into the ruined city and you thought she would get captured for it, but they grabbed Usagi instead? In the 90’s anime Chibi-Usa was captured in those exact circumstances, so I was surprised too.
01[14:30] <Froborr> So, my thinking WAS that Usagi has repeatedly perceived Chibi-Usa as usurping her role in various ways–in her family, with Fedora Mask, etc–and so Chibi-Usa usurping the main character role would be an extension of that, one final twist of the knife for Usagi before she comes to realize that Chibi-Usa is an ally, not a threat.
01[14:30] <Froborr> Huh, interesting.
[14:31] <Arrlaari> Although it was “Wiseman” who showed up to grab her from the city, not Demande, so that part is consistent between versions.
01[14:31] <Froborr> Anyway, my main hope right now is that Mercury, Mars, and Jupiter break out and save themselves and everyone else, possibly with Jupiter’s assistance. Because the increasingly likely-looking alternative is that Tuxedo Mask saves the day, which boo hiss.
01[14:33] <Froborr> So, any final thoughts before moving on to ponies?
[14:33] <Arrlaari> Well, if ponies are only on dailymotion I’m not even going to try to watch it
[14:34] <Arrlaari> Rather skip the episode than deal with that site
01[14:34] <Froborr> Lemme check EQD
[14:35] <Arrlaari> I can hang around to talk STO afterwards, if there’s no luck
01[14:35] <Froborr> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=s5mgPHhkpYQ
[14:35] <Arrlaari> Good fortune!
01[14:36] <Froborr> Okay, start in 1 minute.
01[14:37] <Froborr> Click
01[14:37] <Froborr> Appleoosa, eh?
01[14:38] <Froborr> CMC again so soon, though? Hmm.
01[14:38] <Froborr> I mean, I like them, but I dunno about them being this frequent.
01[14:38] <Froborr> Also: outlaws I guess.
01[14:39] <Froborr> At least that’ll hopefully be less COMPLETELY FUCKING HORRIFICALLY RACIST than what they did the first time around in Appleoosa.
01[14:39] <Froborr> “a dog’s age”?
[14:40] <Arrlaari> I’m pretty sure that’s a phrase in real use
01[14:40] <Froborr> Huh. Never heard it before.
01[14:41] <Froborr> Hey, chaos and destruciton in a CMC episode that they didn’t cause!
01[14:41] <Froborr> “Hayn’t no doubt” *groan*
01[14:41] <Froborr> lol @torches and pitchforks
01[14:43] <Froborr> Are… are they doing an episode about terrorist attacks on sporting events?
01[14:43] <Froborr> I mean… what?
[14:44] <Arrlaari> Sweetie Bell is clearly correct
01[14:44] <Froborr> That’s a very… not-Old-West-y dark mysterious forest.
01[14:45] <Froborr> So, they get rescued by Troubleshoes and he turns out to just be clumsy or something yeah?
[14:47] <Arrlaari> Calld it
01[14:47] <Froborr> Yep. Called it.
01[14:47] <Froborr> lol
01[14:48] <Froborr> Whoa, he’s HUGE.
[14:49] <Arrlaari> Yeah I was worried he’d turn out to be a buffalo when I noted his hoofprints were unusually deep
01[14:49] <Froborr> Don’t buffalo have cloven hooves?
[14:49] <Arrlaari> I don’t know about that
01[14:51] <Froborr> Yep, just looked it up, they’re even-toed.
01[14:54] <Froborr> YES CONFIRMATION OF MY VIEWS ON HOW CUTIE MARKS WORK
01[14:54] <Froborr> “It all depends on how you look at it”
01[14:57] <Froborr> I love pitchfork and torch guy.
01[14:58] <Froborr> *guys
01[14:59] <Froborr> Ehhh
01[14:59] <Froborr> I suppose six episodes into the season is not too soon to be having your first “meh” episode.
[14:59] <Arrlaari> I thought it was pretty good
01[15:00] <Froborr> What’d you like?
[15:00] <Arrlaari> Trouble Shoes is a really good clown and I appreciate that
01[15:00] <Froborr> My general antipathy toward clowns may be working against this episode, yeah.
[15:00] <Arrlaari> I’m not 100% sold on his cutie mark not being kind of a raw deal for him, but at least 80% sold
01[15:01] <Froborr> (I’m not afraid of them or anything, I just don’t find them entertaining.)
01[15:02] <Froborr> I will freely admit to not getting how an upside-down horseshoe symbolizes being an entertainer–but fo rme that’s part of the point.
01[15:03] <Froborr> k, any other thoughts before I post up?
[15:03] <Arrlaari> Nnnope.

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